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  • Two Ways To Film The Same Scene

    Two Ways To Film The Same Scene

    Two Ways To Film The Same Scene

    In a review of City of Angels, the 1998 Hollywood remake of Wings of Desire by Wim Wenders, Roger Ebert says:

    To compare the two films is really beside the point, since “Wings of Desire” exists on its own level as a visionary and original film, and “City of Angels” exists squarely in the pop mainstream.

    In his latest video, Evan Puschak leans into the vast gulf between the two films to “explore the differences in cinematic cultures and styles”. He takes a close look at the same scene in both films and what they reveal about Hollywood on the one hand and European art cinema on the other.

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  • Introducing Noema VI: Paradigm Shifts

    Credits

    Nathan Gardels is the editor-in-chief of Noema Magazine. He is also the co-founder of and a senior adviser to the Berggruen Institute.

    When a concept that organizes our reality is replaced by an entirely different and incommensurate worldview, it is called a “paradigm shift.”

    The theme of this edition of Noema was conceived in early 2024. At that time, we had in mind the epochal shift from the paradigm of globalization, in which markets, trade and technology cross borders, to “the Planetary,” where we recognize that the whole Earth system embeds and entangles human civilization in its habitat.

    This deeper awareness has been enabled by the emergence of a technological exoskeleton of satellites, sensors and cloud computation that expands the heretofore limited scope of human understanding of the world, repositioning our place in the natural order. Neither above nor apart from nature, we have now come to realize we are part and parcel of one interdependent organism comprised of multiple intelligences striving for sustainable equilibrium.

    The disclosure of climate change as a destabilizing consequence of human endeavor was enabled in the first place by planetary-scale computation. This capacity holds out the evolutionary prospect that human, machine and Earth intelligence might one day merge into a kind of planetary sapience that restores and maintains the ecological balance.

    As we have written often in Noema, this conceptual reorientation would entail a redefinition of what realism means in geopolitics. This new condition calls not for the old “realpolitik” that seeks to secure the interests of nation-states against each other but for a “Gaiapolitik” aimed at securing a livable biosphere for all.

    As logically compelling as this case for planetary realism may be, the paradigm shift underway is going in the opposite direction. Instead of the global interconnectivity forged in recent decades maturing into a planetary perspective, it is breaking up into a renewed nationalism more emphatically sovereigntist than before the advent of globalization.

    In short, the prevailing political temperament around the world today is out of sync with the planetary imperative. This does not diminish its reality but, for the moment, eclipses and derails its emergence as the conscious organizing principle of human civilization.

    The Last Sigh Of Liberal Universalism

    The paradigm shift we are witnessing today not only marks a move away from a planetary awareness but also signals the last sigh of liberal universalism as the dominant governing philosophy of the postwar order since 1945.

    The rules-based liberal international order, underwritten and guaranteed for decades by American might, has been consigned to the ash can of history by the summary defection of its founding architect from its terms and premises.

    Under President Donald Trump and his allies, America has effectively joined the revisionist powers of China and Russia by baldly asserting sovereigntist self-interest unencumbered by rules that also encompass the interests of others.

    Tariff walls, outright trade wars and unraveling alliances are supplanting the expansive web of global commerce, Western unity and cultural cross-fertilization that characterized times only recently. In a further break from the established order, Team Trump openly contemplates its own Anschluss of other people’s territory in Greenland, the Panama Canal and even Canada, instead of expressing outrage at China’s desire to take Taiwan, Russia’s bloody attempt to seize Ukraine or Israel’s increasing occupation of the Palestinian territories.

    As Francis Fukuyama and Niall Ferguson discuss in a collage of commentary in this Noema edition, these developments portend the return to a world not unlike that of the 19th century, when the great powers carved out exclusive domains of influence.

    The obvious great powers that would constitute a world apportioned in this way are China and Russia, both grasping at Eurasia, plus the United States and India. Whether Europe falls within the American sphere of influence depends on its capacity to cohere as a continental entity and find its identity as an alternative within a West that is fracturing under the strain of America’s revisionist turn.

    Since the future appears to be taking us back to the 19th century, one cannot say we are in “uncharted territory.” On the contrary, we’ve been down this path before and know how it led to world wars that the global rules-based order, for all its well-known faults, was meant to avoid repeating.

    The “Strong Gods” Of Family, Faith And Nation Challenge The Open Society

    On the American home front, and increasingly elsewhere in the West, it appears the “strong gods” of family, faith and nation are prevailing over the culturally liberal sentiments of an open society.

    When there is no common agreement on what constitutes the good life, culture is politicized. As Alexandre Lefebvre argues in Noema, who gets to define “the good life” has become the central political question of our time. As in China, Russia, Iran or Turkey, governing authorities in the West are increasingly seeking to assign the moral substance of their vision to the state in place of the neutral proceduralism of liberal regimes that, at least in theory, embrace the diversity of all values without favor.

    As the ascendant traditionalists see it, this rights-based liberalism grants a kind of converse moral substance to the state by virtue of the permissive openness it invites, nourishes and protects.

    In many ways, liberalism was bound to fail just as Marxism did, and for the same reason. Marxism lacked a theory of politics that accommodated diverse constituencies because it assumed the universality of the interests of one class. Similarly, liberalism has falsely assumed its own universality, believing that there can be a consensus on only one conception of “the good life.” In reality, where some see declaring gender identity as the positive freedom to pursue self-realization, others see it as the corrosion of traditional Christian morality.

    Like the British philosopher John Gray, Lefebvre suggests that the liberalism of the future may well entail a constitutionally grounded “modus vivendi” of autonomous jurisdictions as one way to keep the civil peace in diverse societies.

    What is stunning in this context is how rapidly the America that elected Trump has tilted toward illiberal democracy under his tumultuous reign. Team Trump has robustly pursued retribution against political enemies, scorned universities as “the enemy,” moved to dismantle the administrative state and climate policies, demeaned the judicial system and cultivated crony corruption. Moreover, in the Orwellian name of free speech, Trump insists on ideological conformity across the board, from college students to corporate law firms.

    To base the idea of democracy solely on elections invites this kind of illiberalism because it implies that majoritarian rule is all that is necessary for legitimacy. But, as the American founding fathers well understood, the will of the majority does not embrace all interests in a society, which must be protected equally. That is the reason for constitutional rule as the founding principle of a liberal polity.

    In constitutional theory, the imposition of limitations and restraints — the “negative” — is what prevents the majority from absolute domination. It is the negative that makes the Constitution and the “positive” that makes government. One is the power of acting, the other the power of amending or arresting action. The two combined make a constitutional government.

    It is this governing arrangement that made America great. The biggest danger of Making America Great Again is that a movement that believes it is the embodiment of the will of the majority will cast aside any constraints on its power as a contrivance by the elites of the ancien régime to keep the masses down.

    In Niall Ferguson’s contribution to Noema, the historian raises the specter that “history was always against any republic lasting 250 years. This republic is in its late republican phase, with the intimations of empire much more visible.”

    The Prospect Of “More Than Human” Intelligence

    As politicized cultural battles and the churning geopolitical economy further unfold, a paradigm shift of a significance similar to planetary awareness is taking place that will redefine what it means to be human.

    Across the sciences, we are coming to understand the self-organizing principle of “computation” as the building block of all forms of budding intelligence, from primitive cells to generative AI. This process involves learning from the environment, assembling information and arranging it by sharing functional instructions through “copying and pasting” code, so that an organism can develop, reproduce and sustain itself.

    As Google’s Blaise Agüera y Arcas and James Manyika write in this issue, “computing existed in nature long before we built the first ‘artificial computers.’ … Understanding computing as a natural phenomenon will enable fundamental advances not only in computer science and AI, but also in physics and biology.”

    More than half a century ago, they note, pioneering computer scientists had the intuition that organic and inorganic intelligence follow the same set of rules for development. “John von Neumann,” write the authors, “realized that for a complex organism to reproduce, it would need to contain instructions for building itself, along with a machine for reading and executing those instructions.” The technical requirements for that “universal constructor” in nature — the tape-like instructions of DNA — “correspond precisely to the technical requirements for the earliest computers.”

    “Life,” they continue, “is computational because its existence over time depends on growth, healing or reproduction, and computation itself must evolve to support these essential functions.”

    Grasping the correspondence with natural computation and learning from it, they believe, will render AI “brainlike” as it further evolves along the path from mimicking neural computation to predictive intelligence, general intelligence and, ultimately, collective intelligence. “Brains, AI agents and societies can all become more capable through increased scale. However, size alone is not enough. Intelligence is fundamentally social, powered by cooperation and the division of labor among many agents.”

    In short, as philosopher of technology Tobias Rees also argues in this issue, the evolution of computation as a symbiosis of human and machine will cause us to rethink what it means to be human as, for the first time in history, a “more than human” intelligence emerges on our planet.

    These contradictions and crosscurrents of the profound paradigm shifts we are living through all at once mark what future historians will surely describe as the Age of Upheaval.

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  • What was Builder.ai and why did it shut down?

    This article is adapted from Rest of World’s recent feature: Inside the collapse of Builder.ai

    What did Builder.ai actually do?

    Builder.ai was founded in 2016 by Sachin Dev Duggal, a British-Indian entrepreneur. Based in London — with operations in Los Angeles, New Delhi, Dubai, Tokyo, and Singapore — Builder.ai became one of the world’s hottest startups by promising to use AI to radically ease the slow and difficult process of building apps and websites. Investors including Microsoft and the Qatar Investment Authority eventually poured as much as $445 million into the company. It was ultimately valued at $1.5 billion, with over 500 employees. 

    Builder.ai had two signature pieces of tech. The first was pre-coded blocks of reusable features — such as user logins, payment platform integrations, and contact pages — in the form of a library that would make software development something like putting together a Lego set. Second was a proprietary AI tool the company advertised as revolutionary, able to drastically reduce human labor and compress “weeks of work into hours and minutes.” 

    Customers interacted with an AI chatbot named Natasha, which the company said would build the first 80% of a product, before human engineers provided the finishing touches. “The end goal — as the founder Sachin said — was to make it as easy as ordering a pizza,” one former employee told Rest of World. “You talk to Natasha online, you tell her what you need, and then we build, refine, and use Natasha to build and refine.” 

    From a Microsoft-backed startup to bankruptcy

    The reality of Builder.ai’s operations differed greatly from the sleek and speedy AI experience it promised, according to recent interviews with ex-employees, past reporting by The Wall Street Journal, and a lawsuit filed by the company’s one-time chief business officer. For our recent feature, Rest of World spoke to a dozen former Builder.ai employees from India, the U.S., and the U.K., to get an inside account of the company’s operations. Although Builder.ai did use AI for relatively basic tasks, former employees said, it relied on staff and outsourced developers in countries including India and Ukraine to do the vast majority of its work.

    One issue Builder.ai faced is that, with humans handling the bulk of development work, delivery timelines were often longer than many clients expected. Two former employees said customers were often frustrated, and some prospective clients walked away after hearing how long their projects would take to complete. Other customers canceled projects or refused to pay because of delays and missed benchmarks. As early as 2019, there were reports that Builder.ai was exaggerating its use of AI. Some analysts are citing Builder.ai as a potential case of “AI washing,” in which companies falsely promote products or services as AI to attract attention and funding.

    Why did Builder.ai collapse?

    In March, Bloomberg reported the company had inflated revenues. Soon after, Israeli lending firm Viola Credit seized most of Builder.ai’s cash. Another Bloomberg report in May alleged Builder.ai and an Indian content company called VerSe had faked income by billing each other for services in a practice known as “roundtripping.” (VerSe told the publication the allegations were “absolutely baseless and false.”) Lawyers representing Builder.ai, a spokesperson for the company, and Manpreet Ratia, its former CEO, did not respond to comment requests from Rest of World.

    By March 2025, the company was in damage control. They cut 270 employees and installed Ratia as CEO. “The new CEO was giving his level best to fix things, but I believe the damage was done,” said a former project manager. On May 20, Ratia made an announcement to its hundreds of remaining employees: Builder.ai had run out of money. The company was filing for bankruptcy, and they were all being let go.

    “Builder.ai built a real AI-powered platform — combining LLM models and our own orchestration layers — to automate meaningful parts of the software assembly process,” Ratia later wrote on LinkedIn. “It wasn’t a gimmick. It wasn’t smoke and mirrors.”

    In retrospect, one former employee told Rest of World that he believes Builder.ai was a good idea, but that the company failed to run its business well. Another former employee was more blunt: “They were never transparent about the company’s financials. They raised over $445 million. … Where did all the money go?” 

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  • American Eagle and Sydney Sweeney face backlash with empl…

    By Eliza Frost

    Published Jul 31, 2025 at 11:26 AM

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    American Eagle has come under fire for the tagline “Sydney Sweeney has great jeans,” which is being described as having “fascist” connotations on social media.

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    The latest American Eagle advert featuring Sydney Sweeney is stirring up conversation over race, eugenics, and beauty standards due to its curious tagline: “Sydney Sweeney has great jeans.”

    The campaign sees the Euphoria star seemingly use jeans and genes interchangeably. The specific ad causing the most controversy has since been removed from the brand’s Instagram page. It featured Sweeney lounging in her denim, with a raspy voiceover, saying: “Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair colour, personality, and even eye colour,” she says. “My jeans are blue,” as the camera pans to her, staring straight into the camera lens.

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    @SYD “has great jeans,” at least that’s what @American Eagle ‘s new ad says. But the internet’s not laughing. What was meant to be a cheeky pun is now being dragged for allegedly playing on eugenics-era language, with many calling it r@c!st and tone-deaf. What’s your take, was it just a bad pun or something deeper? #sydneysweeney #americaneagle #americaneaglejeans #euphoria #sydneysweeneyedit

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    One ad that does remain public, though, is a video of Sweeney literally painting over the word ‘genes’ on a billboard and writing ‘jeans.’

    It is this phrasing that many are finding controversial. Salon explains how the phrase ‘great genes’ has been “historically used to celebrate whiteness, thinness and attractiveness. This makes this campaign seem to be a tone-deaf marketing move.”

    Does Sydney Sweeney have ‘great jeans’ or is it fascism?

    Audiences have also made ties between the advert and fascism, eugenics and white supremacy in a time of Trump’s America. One user even said on X how there is “something about an ad sexualising a woman with blonde hair and blue eyes while commenting that she has great ‘jeans’ [that] feels extremely conservative, especially in this political climate.”

    Under American Eagle’s post on Instagram, users are asking, “Who on your marketing team said this was a good idea?” with others saying: “Please hire a new marketing team.”

    Singer Doja Cat mocked the ad on TikTok, writing in the caption: “My jeans are blee.”

    @screenshothq

    @Doja Cat has posted a TikTok of her reading @SYD’s dialogue from the recent controversial American Eagle ad about how “genes are passed down from parent to offspring,” but with her own southern spin on it. She captioned it: “my jeans are blee.” In the comments, one person wrote: “u know its bad when even doja makes fun of it 😭,” #dojacat #sydneysweeney #americaneaglead #euphoria #sydneysweeneyedit

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    American Eagle ad is ‘genuinely scary’

    Taking to TikTok, user @payalforstyle said in a video: “This American Eagle ad with Sydney Sweeney is especially off-putting. For me, I can’t help but think of the 13-year-old brown girl who gets all her denim at American Eagle, who already struggles to see her beauty and worth in a world that continues to value white, Euro-centric beauty standards… And this girl is now wishing she too can wake up with blonde hair and blue eyes.”

    @payalforstyle

    The internet seems divided on this – my thoughts for what it’s worth #sydneysweeney #americaneagle #fyp

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    One user on X said how “American Eagle needs to delete those Sydney Sweeney ads. They are genuinely scary.”

    Another commented on X: “I like Sydney Sweeney and American Eagle as much as the next guy, but ‘we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children’ is a crazy tagline for selling jeans.”

    Some say Sydney Sweeney advert is a ‘leftist meltdown’

    While the advert has caused a stir, some users are coming out in defence of it. Megyn Kelly wrote on X: “I love how the leftist meltdown over the Sydney Sweeney ad has only resulted in a beautiful white blonde girl with blue eyes getting 1000x the exposure for her ‘good genes.’”

    And one user on TikTok says she “doesn’t see” why it is controversial, “it is just an ad for jeans.” Others have commented under American Eagle’s Instagram posts to “Make America Hot Again,” and one user said: “I just see some jeans, a cute dog, and a pretty lady.”

    American Eagle ad was meant to raise awareness for domestic violence

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    @SYD has been criticised over a “sexualised” jeans advert raising awareness about domestic v!olenc3. According to American Eagle, the purchase price of the jeans will be donated to Crisis Text Line, a charity offering confidential mental health services. The trousers also feature a “butterfly motif on the back pocket of [which] represents domestic v!0lence awareness,” American Eagle’s press release stated, according to The Independent. Some critics have also suggested her advert pays homage to Brooke Shields’ controversial Calvin Klein adverts from the 1980s, which also plays on the genes/jeans pun. #sydneysweeney #americaneagle #sydneysweeneyad

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    A fact that is somewhat lost in this discussion is that the campaign was intended to raise awareness of domestic violence. On American Eagle’s website, the brand explains: “A butterfly motif on the back pocket of the jeans represents domestic violence awareness, which Sydney is passionate about.”

    But, as one user on X said: “If you watched those Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ads, you’d never know they were fundraising for a domestic violence charity.” It is difficult to hear the intended message among the noise the ad has caused.

    While the age-old marketing term goes, “any press is good press,” I’m not so sure it relates to this one. Does Sydney Sweeney just have “great jeans,” or is American Eagle’s latest campaign simply a terrible, unthought-through idea?

    American Eagle responds to Sydney Sweeney ad backlash

    Sydney Sweeney’s latest campaign led to a quiet response by American Eagle. Ashley Schapiro, American Eagle’s vice president of marketing, shared in a LinkedIn post that Sweeney had been fully engaged in shaping the concept. When asked how far to take it, Sweeney replied, “Let’s push it, I’m game.”

    Following backlash, the company disabled comments on Schapiro’s post and swapped out some visuals with alternative imagery, including a woman of colour on its latest Instagram post. However, the original ad and its core messaging remained unchanged, and no formal public statement was issued.

    And yet, despite the insane controversy, the campaign proved commercially successful. The limited-edition Sydney Jean sold out quickly, and American Eagle’s stock rose between 10-18% in the days after launch.



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  • Guaranteed income helps moms reclaim their lives — and families — after prison

    When Carmen Ortega left prison in 2018, she knew that she needed a major life change. For more than five years, Ortega struggled with addiction and cycled in and out of incarceration, unable to secure a steady job or housing that would help keep her afloat.

    “In between me coming out, coming in, coming out — I was, for four years straight, homeless. Every time I came out of the jail, I didn’t have nowhere to go,” Ortega, 52, told The 19th. “That is the biggest problem that we have when we come out of prison or jail. Because you don’t have that support, you go back to what you know.”

    Ortega describes herself as a “go-getter” who is kind and full of joy. But during those harder years, she could feel the Carmen she knew slipping away, along with the people she loved most: her children. At the time of her first period of incarceration, Ortega’s children were young adults — her son was 17 and her two daughters were in their early 20s. Still, the accumulation of challenges fractured her family’s relationship.

    “My oldest daughter said, ‘Mom, I love you so much and I care for you, and every time my phone rings, my anxiety goes up because I think they’re calling me to tell me you have passed away or something. I need to cut you off,’” Ortega recalled.

    In 2020, a nonprofit called the Center for Employment Opportunities (CEO) offered Ortega a lifeline: temporary cash assistance through the group’s Returning Citizens Stimulus program. She was one of more than 10,000 people who received three monthly payments of up to $2,750 each that aimed to help formerly incarcerated people across 28 cities during the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Ortega put that money toward putting a roof over her head and setting up a financial cushion, so that she would never have to be homeless again. It was the first step to building a better life and reestablishing trust with her children. 

    Five years after the program, a report assessing its impact indicates that even short-term cash assistance payments can have significant benefits for formerly incarcerated people by reducing parole violations that often lead to reincarceration. Despite limitations with measuring the effects of a short-term program, the Center for Employment Opportunities argues that its stimulus program is worth long-term investment and the organization is working to scale the program at a state level in New York, California and Colorado. 

    The program’s effect on parents in particular stood out. An estimated 80 percent of incarcerated women are mothers, and about 58 percent of incarcerated mothers have children under the age of 18. Keeping in touch while incarcerated is challenging because of the cost of prison and jail phone calls and the logistical challenges with in-person visits. On average, women are imprisoned more than 2 hours’ driving distance from their families. Several mothers who received the payments told The 19th that the financial support from the program enabled them to reconnect with their children after they were released.

    Cyndy Ortega (no relation to Carmen) was incarcerated in Los Angeles for five months in 2021. Her five young sons were split up into three different foster homes. She said she was fortunate that the families caring for her children made regular phone calls to her, but those calls had to be divided over the one hour she was allowed to use the phone each day. Maintaining the connection with her youngest was particularly challenging because he was nonverbal at the time due to a speech delay, she said.

    “I had never been separated from my kids, so that had to be like one of the hardest things to cope with, to understand and to accept,” said Cyndy Ortega, 36. “With the baby, it was hard — even just to hear him laugh, like it would — it would break me.”

    Throughout her months in prison, she did what she could to prepare for life outside. She took a life skills class, a substance abuse course and a parenting course where she first learned about the Center for Employment Opportunities. Since the 1990s, the center has helped formerly incarcerated people with job training, coaching and paid transitional work as they look for full-time roles. But the COVID-19 pandemic presented a wave of new challenges, including historic unemployment rates.

    “In 2020 a lot of things became very difficult, not only access to basic services and getting people IDs and helping people to find transitional housing, but even just being able to give people temporary work assignments, like we just weren’t able to do it,” said Simone Price, director of organizing for the Center for Employment Opportunities. “So, we got together with several other organizations and found private funding to launch the Returning Citizen Stimulus.”

    Even before the pandemic, parents leaving prison faced a combination of weakened connections with family and friends, and limited access to housing and employment. These factors not only increase their chances for reincarceration but also hinder their ability to provide a stable environment for themselves and their families. One 2018 report by the Prison Policy Initiative determined that formerly incarcerated people were 10 times more likely to experience homelessness and that their unemployment rate was about 27 percent. Meanwhile, the country’s general unemployment rate during the pandemic peaked at 14.7 percent, which was the worst national rate since the 1940s.

    Both private organizations like the Center for Employment Opportunities and local governments have experimented with guaranteed income programs that provide low-income individuals with monthly payments often ranging from $500 to $2,000 for a set period of time. For the center’s program specifically, receiving payments was conditional on completing goal-oriented milestones and, in some cases, attending an employment workshop.

    Data gathering on the outcomes of guaranteed income programs more broadly is ongoing, but one large study previously covered by The 19th says that guaranteed income recipients are able to go back to school, start businesses and make decisions that set them up for better long-term financial health. That particular study found that guaranteed income enabled parents to improve the quality and quantity of time they spent with their children. Parents also had money to spend on resources and services to improve their child’s health and well-being.

    While the Center for Employment Opportunities’ program was not limited to parents, spending related to family reunification was a top priority for the mothers who participated, Price said. Reducing parole violations that can lead to reincarceration plays a key role in this reunification. The center’s impact report, conducted by the nonprofit research firm MDRC and focused on Los Angeles and Alameda counties, found that the stimulus program reduced parole violations among participants by nearly 15 percent for up to a year after enrollment in the program. In the same counties, violent parole violations dropped by 64 percent in the same period. Young adults ages 18 to 24 demonstrated a 33 percent reduction in violent parole violations at 12-month follow up.

    As part of the program, Cyndy Ortega received three payments of $700, in addition to the money she received while working for the center. The payments helped with the basics, like the clothing, hygiene products and transportation she needed to visit her children, who were still in foster care. But she could also invest in new experiences and memories with her kids, including Halloween costumes and Christmas presents. Because of her consistent efforts to see her children, a judge granted her permission to have her boys for two weeks over Christmas in 2021. 

    That time together was critical, Cyndy said, and by the next year, she was able to legally reunify with all of her boys. 

    Though Carmen Ortega’s children were older, the money she received from the stimulus was equally valuable, she said. Carmen was devastated to lose her children’s trust, but over time, “they got to see that I was really on track to be the mom that I had always been,” she said. After her release from prison, she entered a substance recovery facility, used the stimulus money to help her pay for stable housing and secured full-time work with the Center for Employment Opportunities. 

    “It’s amazing how someone who really wants to change can change with support and with a helping hand, Carmen Ortega said. “Not everybody who comes out of incarceration is going to do the same thing again. If they have a plan before they come out, there’s more there’s more ability to do better.”



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