In recent months we’ve seen the Trump administration punishing speech critical of Israel in its widening effort to combat what it sees as antisemitism. As protestors have been detained for pro-Palestinian activism, we’ve seen attacks on Jews and people expressing concern for Israeli hostages in Gaza — and in the wake of all this, a lot Jews don’t agree on which actions constitutive antisemitism. On this episode, we’re looking at the landscape of this disagreement, and talking to the legal scholar who came up with the definition of antisemitism that the White House is using, and who says he’s worried that definition is being used in a way that could hurt Jews instead of protect them.
This episode was produced by Jess Kung. It was edited by Courtney Stein. Our engineer was Ko Takasugi-Czernowin.
President Trump spent the first months of his term holding back Israel’s push for an assault on Iran’s nuclear program. With the war underway, he has now expressed support for Israel. Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York Times, breaks down how the president got to this point.
Friday, June 13, was a truly unlucky day for John Eastman, a key architect of President Trump’s plot to disrupt the results of the 2020 presidential election. A California appellate court, charged with reviewing recommendations to discipline lawyers in that state, affirmed the findings of a trial judge and recommended that Eastman “be disbarred from the practice of law in California and that Eastman’s name be stricken from the roll of attorneys.”
The judges found that his work on the 2020 election case was shoddy and deceptive. “Disbarment,” they said, “is necessary to protect the public, the courts, and the legal profession.”
For any lawyer, this is a professional death sentence. But the court’s decision is not only a devastating blow to Eastman but also to the Trumpist myth that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.
That lie drove MAGA’s 2024 election effortsand still animates Trump’s speeches, including the one he recently gave to troops at Fort Bragg, N.C. It is also embraced by the heads of the Justice Department and the FBI, as well as by Speaker of the House Mike Johnson.
And, as the court noted, Eastman himself continues, to this day, to claim that there were “nefarious forces behind former President Biden’s 2020 electoral win.”
But like the House Jan. 6 Committee and 60 other courts, the judges serving on the Review Department of the California State Bar Court would have none of it. They made clear that “in a democracy nothing can be more fundamental than the orderly transfer of power that occurs after a fair and unimpeded electoral process,” and that Trump and Eastman violated the law by conspiring and lying to disrupt the 2020 election.
So why is Friday’s Eastman ruling significant?
The case is unique and momentous because this is the only proceeding where Eastman, along with supporting denialist enthusiasts, testified under oath, cross-examined their critics and presented their full denialism defense.
The case is unique and momentous because this is the only proceeding where Eastman, along with supporting denialist enthusiasts, testified under oath, cross-examined their critics and presented their full denialism defense. Eastman — assisted by his denialist apostles, who took 19 days to testify, present 7 witnesses and introduce over 180 document exhibits — had more than his day in court. He also presented his stolen election narrative to the public-at-large, with thousands watching by Zoom.
After considering this evidence, the Review Department court held that Eastman’s “false narrative” of “nefarious forces behind” President Biden’s 2020 win “resulted in the undermining of our country’s electoral process, reduced faith in election professionals, and lessened respect for the courts of this land.”
And even if neither of the meticulous decisions of these two California courts changes the minds of the MAGA faithful nor shames Republican leadership into rejecting the Big Lie, the decisions and the evidence that support them will withstand the tests of time and help foil historical revisionism. They set the record straight and ensure that Trump and his accomplices will have difficulty escaping history’s judgment.
As former Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes observed, court judgments like the one handed down last week are addressed not just to our present moment but “to the intelligence of a future day.”
The Eastman case demonstrates again that misinformation and lies collapse in a courtroom where facts and evidence rule. Among the courts’ key findings are:
Eastman admitted that he knew of no significant ballot fraud that would justify challenging the election results.
Eastman failed to “support the Constitution or laws of the United States” as all lawyers must do.
Eastman was grossly negligent in failing to investigate the bizarre results of statistical studies on which he relied to disrupt the presidential election — for example, that there was a one quadrillion to the fourth power chance of Biden winning four states after Clinton lost them in 2016.
Eastman knew that his Jan. 6, 2020, Ellipse speech was built on lies and willful blindness. “We know there was…traditional fraud that occurred,” he said. “We know that dead people voted.” At the time, he understood neither claim was true. And the Review Department rejected Eastman’s “merely ‘rhetorical hyperbole’” defense.
The courts also did not find his explanation a credible defense for his fraudulent actions and mischaracterizations. Both courts rejected Eastman’s claims that such statements and rhetorical hyperbole are constitutionally protected.
While recognizing that all lawyers have a First Amendment right to make public statements, the Review Department court said that “this right does not extend to making knowing or reckless false statements of fact or law.” Nor does the First Amendment protect speech “that is employed as a tool in the commission of a crime.”
Eastman falsely told the Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” crowd and the nation that state election law irregularities and fraudulent voting had changed the result of the presidential election. Part of the proof? As the trial judge noted, on Nov. 29, 2020, Eastman wrote to fellow MAGA lawyer Cleta Mitchell that he knew of no actual evidence of outcome-determinative fraud in any states: “It would be nice to have actually hard documented evidence of the fraud.”
Eastman’s biggest lie was that Vice President Pence had the authority to interfere in the electoral vote. Both Eastman and Trump knew Pence had no such authority, but, on the president’s behalf, Eastman continued to press Pence and his lawyer to disrupt the Electoral College count.
Even Eastman’s own testifying constitutional expert and family friend, conservative Professor John Yoo, flipped on Eastman. Yoo breathtakingly admitted that the Trump-Eastman alternative elector notion was “a made-up dispute rather than a real one” and that Pence’s rejection of the pair’s arguments was “unassailable.”
The Review Department also emphasized that Eastman’s testimony during the bar disciplinary proceedings demonstrated that his beliefs were not sincere, honest or credible. From start to finish, the court found, he “used his skills to push a false narrative in the courtroom, the White House, and the media.”
Despite such plentiful and well-documented findings, which California law insists must meet the heavy burdenof “clear and convincing evidence” before an attorney can be disbarred, Trump’s top election lawyer has remained defiant, disingenuous and not credible. Eastman characterized the bar proceeding as “political persecution.”
He insisted that those who brought charges against him “should themselves be disbarred,” and that the Office of Chief Trial Counsel of the State Bar and the trial judge were “partisan” actors who had made campaign contributions to Democrats.
This rhetoric, of course, sounds eerily familiar.
Eastman will likely appeal to the California Supreme Court and, if he loses there, eventually to the U.S. Supreme Court on First Amendment grounds.
It is also possible that when the next Supreme Court vacancy occurs, Trump may nominate Eastman. After all, if we can have a convicted felon in the White House, why not a disbarred, but loyal, lawyer on the nation’s highest court?
Whatever unfolds for Eastman, and despite the profound damage that Trump’s election denialism has done to American democracy, the Eastman case compellingly illustrates Alexander Hamilton’s confidence that this nation is well served by an independent judiciary.
As if anticipating the election denialism of Trump and Eastman, Hamilton argued that courts would “guard the Constitution and the rights of individuals from the effects of…the acts of designing men or the influence of particular [circumstances which] sometimes disseminate among the people themselves…”
Nearly 250 years later, Hamilton sounds positively clairvoyant.
Neil Goteiner was a pro-bono trial attorney consultant to the California State Bar during the Eastman proceedings.
McConnell made the withering assessments in a series of private “personal oral histories” that he gave to Michael Tackett, the deputy Washington bureau chief of the Associated Press, who has a forthcoming biography about the Kentucky senator called The Price of Power. The AP conveniently reported the book’s juicy details.
McConnell’s remarks were made after the 2020 election that Trump lost, and the senator was apparently elated to see the backside of the former president, musing, “it’s not just the Democrats who are counting the days” until he leaves office.
The Senate Republican leader since 2007, he also expressed confidence in the “good judgment of the American people” for rejecting Trump that year.
“They’ve had just enough of the misrepresentations, the outright lies almost on a daily basis, and they fired him,” he said, in one of his recorded diaries.
McConnell, 82, announced earlier this year that he will step down as leader at the end of November.
Despite his private protestations and his public blaming of Trump as “practically responsible” for the “disgraceful” Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, McConnell is one of several formerly disaffected Republicans to turn around and endorse the former president this year.
“It should come as no surprise that as nominee, he will have my support,” he said in March.
That puts him in league with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), two other GOP stalwarts who had variously criticized Trump and later had a come-to-MAGA moment.
After Trump lost the election and in the weeks leading up to the Jan. 6 attack, McConnell privately mused about his escalating instability, Tackett’s book will reveal.
“For a narcissist like him, that’s been really hard to take, and so his behavior since the election has been even worse, by far, than it was before, because he has no filter now at all,” he said.
The evangelical pastor and ambassador to Iran told Trump he “will hear from heaven” with guidance about the war.
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U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee has suggested to President Donald Trump that he should use a nuclear bomb against Iran, urging Trump to listen to the voice he will “hear from heaven” and follow its guidance in making decisions about Israel’s war on Iran.
In a post on Truth Social on Tuesday, Trump posted a screenshot of the lengthy text he says was sent to him by Huckabee, an evangelical and Christian Zionist who Trump praises as a “Great Person!”
In the text, Huckabee says Trump’s current decision on whether or not to involve the U.S. further in attacks on Iran is akin to the decision President Harry Truman faced in 1945 — when Truman dropped two atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Japan and decimating the cities.
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Huckabee further says that he seeks not to persuade but to “encourage” Trump. “God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century — maybe ever,” Huckabee writes. “No President in my lifetime has been in a position like yours. Not since Truman in 1945.”
The rambling message is extremely ironic, considering that Huckabee is suggesting that Trump should use a nuclear bomb against Iran in a war that was started by Israel to supposedly target Iran’s nuclear weapons program, though most of the targets and casualties so far appear to be civilian.
Huckabee also urges Trump to listen to “HIS voice,” an apparent reference to God, saying that Trump “will hear from heaven” about the issue.
Some Christian Zionists have outright preached that Israel must claim dominance over enemies like Iran, who will try to destroy Israel as it pursues total control over Palestine. Huckabee has been heavily criticized for his erasure of the occupied West Bank, which he refers to as Judea and Samaria, and for saying once that there is “really no such thing as a Palestinian.”
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who has spent over a decade urging the U.S. to enter into a war with Iran, praised Huckabee’s text, saying it is “spot on.”
The text, seeking to stoke Trump into using extreme force against Iran, comes at a fragile moment as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is openly urging Trump to attack Iran, lending Israel even more support on top of the current defensive backing from U.S. military assets.
Similarly to Trump’s statement on Tuesday brushing aside the U.S. intelligence community’s assessment that Iran isn’t pursuing a nuclear weapon, Huckabee’s invocation of a higher purpose echoes President George W. Bush’s bizarre reasoning for starting the Iraq War. Just months after the U.S.’s invasion initially began, Bush reportedly told an Israeli-Palestinian summit that he was “driven with a mission from God.”
It’s unclear what Trump’s next move will be. He has repeatedly said that his goal is to force Iran to capitulate on his administration’s demands for a nuclear deal. “COMPLETE SURRENDER,” he wrote on Truth Social on Tuesday.
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